Posts by cyberdyne systems 101

I agree with Jesus words that the truth would divide families. Although I wouldn't be so arrogant to presume I have absolute Truth now that I have cleared my mind of WTS intepretation and read the Bible to see what it really says, It certainly does divide us from our family's, especially those who hold on rigidly to their belief's (Like the Witnesses claiming to be the only approved religeon by God). In my opinion the Witnesses fulfill Jesus words but not in the way they think!

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Disappointment

by cyberdyne systems 101 in

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i guess i know it was to be expected, but i thought i was making headway with my ex.

it seemed we were at the begining of being able to talk about things, especially the witnesses and bible.

i had offered to show her from the bible some points and even her own literature (wts) so we could discuss it further.

cyberdyne systems 101

I've been out, just got back, but its good to hear of similar experiences of the sheer frustration of the mind control. One point is certainly true, we may have given them something to think about.

One other thing that occurs to me is that it shows how far we have come from that mindset, I can remember being the same way afterall!

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Disappointment

by cyberdyne systems 101 in

jw
friends

i guess i know it was to be expected, but i thought i was making headway with my ex.

it seemed we were at the begining of being able to talk about things, especially the witnesses and bible.

i had offered to show her from the bible some points and even her own literature (wts) so we could discuss it further.

cyberdyne systems 101

I guess I know it was to be expected, but I thought I was making headway with my ex. It seemed we were at the begining of being able to talk about things, especially the witnesses and Bible. I had offered to show her from the Bible some points and even her own literature (WTS) so we could discuss it further. Now this morning when I saw her, she has suddenly closed her mind, and kept saying she was happy and thats it she doesnt want to talk about it anymore. I asked her if her being happy was good enough and wasnt it what God wanted that matters most and pointed out that that is the message the WTS gives to 'worldly' people, and even asks them to examine their own religeon, so why wont she? All I got in reply was that she doesn't go round asking that of people!

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Dist. Conventions and Circuit Assemblies ~ Questions...

by Riverwatcher in

i've got some questions about district conventions and circuit assemblies.

are j/w's required to attend them?

what if they can't afford to go?

cyberdyne systems 101

Don't forget the service meeting items telling everyone how to look, not to roam around during the sessions, no sweets etc etc. Such a loving organisation - more like they are being controlled. Where do they use a Bible trained conscience in all this? Cant they decide for themselves what Christian conduct is? Oh no I forgot their rules are not about Christian things but rather personal choices that they want you to conform to.

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New GB members WT March 15th p 26

by stillajwexelder in

new gb members wt march 15th p 26 .

i am sure you all know but it was finally published in this magazine on page 26 - geoffrey w. jackson and anthony morris 111 are the new gb members and it gives biographical details.

then all current gb members ar ealso listed.

cyberdyne systems 101

I had asked my wife about the Gov'n body members, and she was going to look it up, now I can pass this on to her. Thanks!

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Is There A Happy Balance To Deprogramming A Witness?

by minimus in

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it's not easy to help a jw see that they are misled.

i see thatsometimes you can get them to really see a matter clearly and other times they feel like you're beating them up.

i had a conversation with my mom yesterday and it's funny----sometimes she'll accept it all and other times she doesn't want to deal.

cyberdyne systems 101

Very interesting discussion! I wish to deprogram my wife, I have given her a few thoughts but her conditioning is so very hard to overcome. The main problem is she doesnt know a lot about how the doctrine's work, so i feel its more an emotional attachment for her (social etc). I have offered to show her directly from the Bible and things from the society's publications, but she is so scared to look! She thinks i'll dirty the Bible and why she cant look at her own publications I dont know! I guess she must realise deep down things wont add up, but its accessing that part of her mind thats so difficult. And its so true that without something to replace whats lost why would she want to leave?

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acWhy do you use the term "Apostate"?

by Trojan in

i see that several of you use the term "apostate" or call themselves "apostates".

the problem i have with using the term is that you continue to follow wtbts thinking of "branding and labeling" people.

they charge that word with lots of negativity and label people that have different thoughts.

cyberdyne systems 101

I dont use the term to apply to myself, if my wife calls me an apostate, I reply I am apostate to The JW's not the Bible.

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The TRUTH will set you free.

by vomit in

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just trying to grab your attention.

something is driving me crazy, i just cant stop saying "the truth".

why do these two words have so much power over us.

cyberdyne systems 101

When I have conversations with witnesses they constantly use org. language, like 'the truth'. It must instill in the R & F the sense of conditioning that their are right and all others are wrong. I will not let myself say 'the truth' in the witness sense, just saying 'the witnesses' instead. If the discussion is about the Bible I say 'your version of truth'.